Deus Ex: Invisible War Walkthrough Templars Ending. Three Illuminati elite troopers will attempt to block your exit from UNATCO HQ. JC Denton messages his intent to kill you. The Templar Paladins outside UNATCO will not harm you. Head past the south docks and witness the Paladins and Illuminati battling each other. Invisible War started by basically taking all endings from DE1 and writing them into one composite canon ending. Doubt MD will do that, but sequels usually choose a canon ending.
I figured I'd make a new topic about this instead of posting this in the de-facto DX:IW thread, on account of the myriad of people who've not gotten near the endings yet, and it'd be kinda like, not good to do that. That way, people who come into this thread know they're gonna get 'spoiled'.The topic - which DX:IW ending did you take first, and why? Why did you like ending X, or ending Y?I first chose the Denton ending. I'd say it was 50-50 as to why I did - I had a decent chunk of respect for my former character (aka the 'Well I Was Smart When I Was JC, He Couldnt Get Too Stupid Since DX1' philosophy), and the ideals did make sense. I didnt personally put any stock in the 'omg JC si dead, its all helios!!1!1' stuff the other guys said, mainly because I figured they were saying that just to get me to not do what JC wanted.During the video, at first it seems fine, even tho we don't hear JC's voice, only Helios.
Sure does seem like a communal society.And then it says 'Helios has spoken'. I wondered if I did the right thing.Then I did the Illuminati one. My mindset was that if the JC option wasn't there, the Illuminati one seemed the best for the general public. I don't quite understand the ending, tho.
Who's the man speaking? Does the general public know that the Illuminati is running everything, even if the narrator claims everyone knows who Ophelia is?Thirdly, I did the Templars. The ending and the video proved they were cockbites, planning next to destroy normal humans too.
I wonder whos being hanged, tho.Finally, I did the 'blow each of the dudes up' mission. I did this primarilly the final one, mainly cuz I figured it'd be a boring ending - the world goes on normally.But hol-ee shit. The ending totally threw me for a loop. I totally did not expect a 'big ass Collapse happens, Omarians win' ending.The final question is, considering that DX3 is already being designed - which ending will be used as a template for it? I'd wager it would be the Illuminati ending, since the Helios one would be too. Communal, and the Templar one would be kinda weird.
And the Omarian ending. Beats the piss out of me. Quote:Thirdly, I did the Templars. The ending and the video proved they were cockbites, planning next to destroy normal humans too.
I wonder whos being hanged, tho.The impression I got from that was it went from the persecution of the mutant back to the persecution of man.I did the 'kill everyone' ending first just to see what would happen. I wasn't expecting the post apocalyptic nightmare that came about after that.Next came the Denton ending. Personally, I thought the Denton ending was the 'nicest' of all of them but it definitely felt like the world had given up any individualism. For the greater good?
Maybe, but it felt just a little creepy. The good of the many outweighed the good of the one in literal fashion.Then I tried the Illuminati ending and that seemed to be the more 'practical' if not spiritual ending to the game. Commerce went on and the world became one huge corporate world with Ophelia watching from the heavens.
World government was achieved, but you've still got the haves and the have nots.quote:JC merged with Helios but the world collapsed anyway and the Illuminati took over again in a few years.It is also mentioned in the loading screen info bits that JC had shut down the Aquinas router and that Area 51 was destroyed (following Tracer Tong's suggestion to blow the site). The Illuminati didn't take over immediately afterwards and JC disappeared off the face of the map.
By taking out the router, world communications were trashed. The Illuminati could only try again years afterwards and that's where the story starts up again. Quote:The impression I got from that was it went from the persecution of the mutant back to the persecution of man.I thought it was the feet of a scientist not really that unexpected since the scientists were the ones who came up with the biomods.
But it did sound like the Templars would continually find someone new to persecute after they finished off the last ones.Edit: I cant remember from earlier parts in the game.did Alex D. Ever meet Tara(? Cant remember ner name.the trainee that defected to the Templars) face to face?
Or was it only via the holograms?This message was edited by zAmboni on December 09, 2003 at 21:27. Yea.I just restarted teh game and yea it was Billie.that fucking bites because about the only reason i would want to play through it again was to see if i could kill Billie and see what would happen to the plot line.
But they designed the game so you would never have an opportunity to do so. She runs into that room so quickly that you cant fire off about 30 shots into her from long range with the weak ass pistol.I played through the game quite thoroughly the first time and went through each ending, and honestly, now I cant get at Billie, there is no compelling reason to go back through and play the game.
I could kill Klara and Leo, but their kinda minor players, or maybe Tracer Tong, but not sure if it would really have a significant change in the game. I gave serious thought to 'kill them all' but eventually reasoned as ESpark did that JC was cool in DX1, he's still cool.Plus, Paul was really cool when I thawed him out. He was just like Paul from DX1 (unlike JC who's gotten freaky) and he was right then, so.But, I made sure to wax just about everyone who looked at me funny throughout the game. That way the utopia won't be polluted with dickheads (of course, I had no idea how the game would end).
The game got really freaky starting when I let the gray out in trier before going through the gate and he starts telling me all this stuff.I also wanted to leave Billie alive so we could hook up later, so I tranquilized her ass and carried her out, but she died by greasel spit on my way out. Oh well, I guess she really was a dumb bitch after all. One person I really didn't want to kill was Nicollette Duclare.
I really liked her DX1 character, but I finally wasted her with a hunter seeker bot when I came to grips with what a dumb bitch she had become. Same with Chad. He was cool in Paris.
His little 'threat' before my arrival in New York pushed me over the edge, though, so I waxed him.EDIT: One thing I want to go back and redo is send Leo in to go fight the Dentons, but then backstab him. I want to see Paul throw down DX1 style. Well what to say.I did the JC ending first. It's all nice but somehow it felt wrong. A bit like mental communism, yeck.The other groups all sounded even worse: illuminati: freaks, Templars: they hate computers, sorry guys no cookie for you.The only group i really liked throughout the game were the Omar. I did their assignment right away in the game and had prefered customer status all the time. Their ending rocked, a huge kill'em all and i got the cool Omar suit and got the world wide customer preference plan.
Yay.Would i play the game again? The somewhat laggy controls, small levels which meant loads of loading when walking from A to B weren't fun.
Also the fact that it does't matter if you pick WTO or Order since they turn out to be both JC's groupies sucked. I might still do a kill all from minute 1. But only after a patch fixes the issues.
I took the Helios ending first, mostly by elimination. The Templars were technophobic reactionaries, the Illuminati were setting themselves up to repeat the same damn mistakes, and while Leo's suggestion was tempting, it would have accomplished virtually nothing. New leaders would step up, and the Illuminati and the Templars would have their war anyway; or one would crumble, the other would rise, and we'd have either asshats or fools as above. Besides, JC and Paul were cool in the first game, at least Paul still had his head on straight, and Tracer Tong admitted that the New Dark Age looked a lot better on paper. So, yeah, I merged with Helios. I'm ambivalent about the result.
The speech seemed dishonest-partly in content, partly in delivery, and partly in the necessity of holding such an event in the first place.I reloaded outside UNATCO intending to kill 'em all, but Leo wouldn't talk to me, so I reloaded inside. I tried for Templar next, figuring that I would like it the least, but the terminal wouldn't let me upload to Munich, so I went Illuminatus. This one left me scratching my head-it started out sounding like government propaganda, took a turn for the sinister with '.our leaders deny she even exists', and settled on weird for the Ophelia lovefest. Obviously society is not the Brinian utopia claimed in the first part, but we get only the weakest of hints that anything is amiss. And what is this broadcast? An official 'underground' broadcast to channel subversive energies into harmless satellite worship?
Something taken completely out of context in which 'our leaders' actually refers to the Society of Ophelia Deniers?Since I now had a save game with the Templars dead and the Illuminati friendly, I decided to take that opportunity for the renegade ending. Omar comes out of fucking nowhere!
So, they get the Helios core, eventually conquer humanity-who was the narrator?That left the Templars. I went back to New Cairo and gave blood, did Liberty Island again, and wasn't at all surprised (well, except that Saman was never in frame). After a few seconds trying to remember who wore white pants, I realized the feet were attached to an ex-scientist, but the shot really should have included more of the body.ESpark: quote:The final question is, considering that DX3 is already being designed - which ending will be used as a template for it? I'd wager it would be the Illuminati ending, since the Helios one would be too. Communal, and the Templar one would be kinda weird.
And the Omarian ending. Beats the piss out of me.Alex merges with Helios, but the Knights Templar release their counter-nanite, cancelling or limiting Helios's influence. The Illuminati-led World Order and the Templars continue the war that began in DXIW.
I don't know if IS plan to reuse the Omar; maybe they let the others duke it out for a while, step in, and start kicking six different kinds of ass.Preserving the full content of each scene is a bit more difficult, but what do we actually see? At some point within Saman's lifetime, he riles up his troops; his assessment of his enemies' condition could be accurate, exaggerated, or delusional.
'After a century of peace', the Illuminati (purportedly) control the world government. In 'Year of Our Union 125', Helios tells a group of New Yorkers, 'We will prolong this second century of peace.' After 'two centuries of war', Earth is scorched and the Omar are (apparently) the only remaining hominids. I can think of several ways to weave together the first three; the second and third are little different, especially if you believe Saman's claim that the Dentons never overcame their Illuminati programming.
The fourth requires only a little creative license, and DX3 could take place anywhere along that timeline-presumably before the scorched-Earth scenario.Or maybe the third game will be Deus Ex Tactics.lostpacket: Is your sarcasmometer in the shop? ESpark: quote:I wouldn't say he got freaky - he merged with an AI,I imagine many people would consider merging with an AI to be freaky, to say nothing of forced biomodification, complete physical and mental equality, and an AI knowing their every thought. In the game, both Alex and Paul express initial skepticism-well, it depends on the player, but one either has those discussions or not; they are not multiple-choice.quote:Actually, they let everyone else blow the shit out of each other in a Great Collapse (which trashes the world in the process), leaving the Omarians (who were adapted to this situation Just In Case) to live on Earth, and in Space.The Great Collapse was the disintegration of the old order following the destruction of the Aquinas Router under Area 51. As for who dealt the final blow, you have your interpretation and I have mine.
The Omar are into kidnapping and forced assimilation. At least one character wonders how long the Omar will need humans. They are eager to destroy Helios (not capture it; I misheard JC in the commotion), and respond gleefully if Alex follows their plan. They really aren't a hands-off sort, and I don't think the Omar surveying the apparently fresh corpses was just sightseeing. I've just finished all four endings, and damn; there is no dance party.I was hoping they'd actually connect the dance party ending to the game this time, scoring a ferocious victory for NG Resonance. Nada.The cinematics are all in Bink, so if I find a way to extract them I'll be able to check for a dance party cinematic. Which doesn't help if the dance party exists but only in-engine.Oh yeah, if you don't want to kill Billie Adams, shoot the poison barrel and run inside JC's Fortress of Privacy then make sure you have level 3 Cloak and Run Silent when you meet up with her in UNATCO.
And plenty of bioenergy backups.Incidentally all of the text messages (books et all) are in plain files in the Content/DX2/AqcuiredDataText/English directory. Also it looks like some Xbox specific files are installed. Curiosities for the reverse engineer. (aside: Fuck you Infopop and fuck you too, Mozilla. I'm not sure which one caused my post to disappear, so I'll curse you both)I just wanted to chime in with Hooha about how airless, souless, and empty the endings were, almost universally.
There was nothing good and/or uplifting about any of them. It was as if Warren Sphincter punished us for really sticking to our guns and attempting to craft something good out of the muck that was the world of DX2. Support the mad JC and Co.? Humanity turns into a hive of insects with pretty buildings and bad clothes!
Doom on you!Templars? They're not interested in humanity, just in power!
Wanna fuck everone and let humanity decide its own fate? Holy shitx0rz, doom on you again! The whole thing explodes in your fucking face and the only bit of humanity to survive isn't fucking human! Good one, Warren.
Go pick up the check and pass me another comfort-girl.Screw you, Ion. I feel cheated. At least when I was blowing up the world in DX1, I felt like something mattered, that I was doing something to change the mess humanity had gotten itself into. Now, in DX2?. I would have been better off reloading DX1. View image here.